Share the “bizarre” job hunting experience and heart journey of the immediate junior.

Hello everyone, I am Fishskin, today to share with you a same school with the same department of students experience.

This student claims to be small transparent, software engineering major, will graduate from the university to huawei, the position is product marketing manager.

He describes himself as unpredictable. Why?

In just one year after his senior year, he experienced various changes in his future plan: he planned to take the postgraduate entrance examination => plan to go abroad => start looking for a development post => find a Japanese company => quit his job and changed his job direction to a product post => finally landed in Dafa.

Looking back at this experience, he himself felt very strange, before and after such a short period of time, can still so over and over again change?

When I learned about his experience, I was impressed at first, but also deeply curious about why he gave up the postgraduate entrance examination and chose to apply for a job. Why do you quit your job? How to enter the big factory smoothly again?

So I immediately contacted little Transparent, hoping he could share his story. Under my offensive, shy of the younger brother agreed to come down, and a write is 6000 words!

Let’s step into his world and see his experiences and feelings from the perspective of a recent undergraduate.

Outline of this paper:

The road of struggle

To be honest, I had a sudden self-consciousness about planning for the future. And the root of the sudden, is the previous things led to the natural, and a wake up to the self.

Whether take an examination of grind?

Take the postgraduate entrance examination for example this thing, the first three years of my university undergraduate course, is thinking of oneself to take the postgraduate entrance examination, even to the summer vacation of the second semester of the third year, have learned high numbers.

But why all of a sudden not want to take it?

Rational analysis

Let me briefly tell you about my personal situation. When I wanted to take the postgraduate entrance examination in the first three years of my undergraduate study, I didn’t find the research direction I was interested in, and I didn’t have the future career plan (it is impossible to take a postgraduate entrance examination). Take an examination of grind this matter, it seems that still is a this age this node, oneself eye classmate eye parents eye, very should do. So I just want to go to school like most people.

If you’re a student who’s committed to an academic career and is deeply interested in computer science, look no further. But such people, after all, are in the minority. For example, I just want to get a degree, and I’m not really interested in scientific research. Go with the flow to take an examination of grind like this actually, also cannot say is a bad choice, after all today’s computer master degree is still very valuable, want you graduate student stage not to make too only, of resume write not too bad, pass the resume screening of majority big factory is without any problem.

But go with the flow to graduate school with eyes closed, certainly is not the best choice. Because first, after all, the job of graduate students is to do research, water is water can certainly, but the characteristics of the computer major is high pay, the job is relatively inner volume, it is easy to cause: when graduation, want to engage in the algorithm position, but the level of scientific research is not enough, but the competition for the doctor; Do front and back end development, development experience is not as awkward as some undergraduates. Second, two and a half years or three years for a master’s degree in China is still a long time. How many three years do you have in your life? So or should always weigh the three years that this golden age consumes, is not the best choice for oneself, after all, is not the child that the college entrance examination died when reading.

Personally, I think that if I work for three years, I may gain more than three years of graduate school. Senior Student Kangkang Yupi has been studying for graduate school in Tencent University for nearly one year. In addition to improving his technology, he has also accumulated a large number of fans on other platforms. Graduate school if water three years, imperceptibly may be thrown away too far by peers.

Consider the consequences

Take an examination of grind did not take an examination of the consequence is actually very serious, not less than the college entrance examination failure!

This is my personal opinion, ha, if the test fails, under normal circumstances, the following life path has two choices:

  1. Looking for a job
  2. Preparation of the second world war

If you choose to look for a job after failing the graduate school entrance exam, you have obviously missed the best time for job hunting — fall recruitment. Graduate school entrance examination failed, not only in the main battlefield of the autumn recruit 0 harvest, and in front of the upcoming spring recruit 0 preparation, it can be said to be very passive. Even if he can find a job, it can only be said that if he takes part in the autumn Recruitment, with his ability, he will have more choices and may find a better job than now. Your first job is the most important one in your life. So the same degree of effort, with the effect of looking for a job may be more stable and significant than the entrance examination of postgraduate.

If you choose ww2, you must first think about why you lost ww1. If you don’t understand this, then the probability of losing the second World War is very, very high, and you will only face a more embarrassing and uncomfortable situation. In the second world War, we must first face great psychological pressure, and weigh up our ability again to give another chance to pass the exam.

So take an examination of grind after failure is really in a dilemma. On the one hand, master’s degree is becoming more and more popular, on the other hand, it is becoming more and more difficult to take the exam, after all, more and more people take the exam. I don’t know what to do. It’s ok to go with the flow and pursue academic qualifications, but I still have to think about the risks behind it and whether I am ready and aware to take this risk. Especially the graduate student of computer major is really too difficult too difficult to take an examination, the newspaper record ratio is too low and great god is much, so if decide to take an examination of grind, must make full determination, do sufficient preparation, try to go ashore once.

Fishskin: to whether read graduate school, each classmate should resemble him to have oneself of think and weigh, and not be led by the nose to walk by the person, the option can only and must be in your own hand.

Finally, after comprehensive consideration, I think the degree is still more important, but besides taking the postgraduate entrance examination, are there no other ways to improve the degree?

Of course, go abroad to study!

Are you going abroad?

There are simple reasons why you should consider studying abroad. Girlfriend wants to go to Canada to study abroad haha, so I at that time clap forehead door: “I want to accompany you to go!!”

But later I calmly understood that it was extremely difficult to apply for a master’s degree in Canada, and my rubbish gpa was almost impossible.

Why don’t you start applying for the UK’s water conservancy?

Although want to go abroad to study abroad, but I this language achievement and time, want gap a year for sure. Intermediary sister said, people can not be at home, while working to learn the language, than at home “full-time” learning language effect is even better, and the job is better, the more favorable to the application, the best 500!

(now feel: find 500 strong fragrance! What else to study?

Well, then my job search has officially begun.

The road to cover

As a serious software engineering students, certainly everyone subconscious, will go to find development direction work, commonly known as the program ape. As it happens, the professional practice of the school with the course requirements, looking for together.

Develop your career path

It was probably in August when I had just decided to give up the postgraduate entrance exam, but soon I ran into a big problem: I was looking at all the unfamiliar positions on recruitment websites, with no idea what to choose and no basic knowledge of the skills required. Oh, my god, are we studying a computer? !

My undergraduate course still participated in a few discipline competition activity, it is the person that wants to go to work son immediately, do not know what to somebody else go to work, is this not a very horrible thing?

That’s right. So that’s why a lot of senior students, who are already working, repeatedly say that you need to get an internship early, you need to know what you’re going to do after work, you need to know that the specialized courses that they’re teaching are 50 years old and it’s not going to help you find a job. At this time I was really confused, to one layer after another through the window. After backend development, data analysis, game planning, and even music design, my delivery is finally starting to get “right”…

Briefly introduce my failed job search experience at this time. Failure is inevitable, born small fool is not afraid of tiger, this time what all won’t what also didn’t back of me, but also to the Internet big factory produced a lot of vision, and began my resume delivery road. For r & D direction, 211 undergraduate degree, enough to pass most of the large factory resume screening, enter the written interview. As the independent recruitment of garbage very ashamed of me, because at least there are some algorithm competition basis, the written test or passed some, into some interviews.

As is known to all, the interview for a development post should be bei prepared in advance, so I also memorized some. But I didn’t expect to enter the interview can be too fun ~

Examiner: “what is the difference between process and thread?” Me: “…”

Examiner: “introduce database index?” Me: “…”

Examiner: “TCP/IP four handshake?” I: “calculate net class didn’t choose.”

Test an officer: “… Remember the time complexity of quicksort?” I: “logn? 2 logn? Log2n?”

Examiner: “children, refueling.”

Return true be to play, passed before and after one time toss about, the road that the development post of big factory seeks a job does not give accident all hang up. At this time, I chose the next best thing and took part in the special interview for professional internship arranged by the school. I got a formal offer from a Japanese company and started my internship. The interview process was very relaxed and enjoyable because there was not much technology involved.

The direction of the internship is focused on back-end development. After three months of internship, combined with my previous school experience and personal interest, I started to work in huai (ZI) and Wo (Yi).

To change your job?

Taking this internship experience as an opportunity, I began to think about whether I am suitable for development. I found myself with two big problems:

  1. I’m not passionate about technology.
  2. When I’m working on development, I can’t focus and I can’t sit still.

I still think that the development of this type of work was driven by interest and talent, and it’s a little bit clear that there’s a difference in the aura of being in an office where a well-chosen programmer works alongside other types of people. In the field of development, the impact of different interests and talents can be huge. To put it bluntly, whether we can do development depends on fate.

My roommate (talented, interested, capable and recommended for graduate study) can sing a tune while typing code at 11 PM with a Bluetooth speaker. I can’t feel the joy of coding, and I can’t feel the sense of accomplishment that underpins the spirit of countless programmer apes. At this point, someone might say, there is no eternal talent, only persistent efforts. Yes, neI (neI) and Juan (Juan) is what workers must do and insist on. What they are doing now is just to choose a suitable track and direction according to individual differences and personal interests, rather than taking efforts as an excuse and ignoring what others say and say. Therefore, at this very important choice point, I finally decided to give up development and choose a product direction that requires not only technology but not so high technical and professional requirements, but also a lot of organization, communication, design and planning skills, as my career track.

Fish skin: look carefully oneself, have the courage to break through oneself professional limit, deserve admire very much.

Product job search road

In fact, from the beginning, I was oriented towards the future of my job search by products, but I was torn between doing development for two or three years first and directly doing products. This must be each has its own advantages and disadvantages, the accumulation of certain technical experience to do the product has a lot of help, but the development thinking and product thinking is still a fundamental gap (an egg, a hatching chicken). Combined with the above write their own development liver is not moving, so officially set foot on their own product job road!

And now it’s December 2020…

In fact, the recruitment situation in the workplace is changing rapidly, but I just finished the college recruitment as a graduate, so I dare to say more……

Let’s start with the development interview. In a larger sense, the development interview focuses on the mastery of knowledge to assess the level of development. One is through the question, see the applicant know or do not know, if know answer 1 or 0; The second is to dig into the resume project experience or have used XXX, for further evaluation. In general, development interviews, including algorithmic written tests, require a lot of preparation (SONG), but the effect is visible to the naked eye, which is why, as mentioned repeatedly above, preparation in advance for development interviews (and early internship) is cost-effective. However, it should be noted that the success of the development interview does not mean that the “pain” of the actual start of the development should be reduced, or it should be combined with the content of the previous chapter to make a careful assessment of whether you can pursue the development path.

The interview of the product direction, especially the school recruitment product, is very different from the development. The development of the face must have seen a lot of, so today to share the product school recruitment skills.

Fishskin: although is the product school recruit skill to share, but after I read, feel a lot of skill also applies to the development post classmate interview, do not skip this part content oh ~

Product school recruitment skills

1. Review your resume

First of all, educational background. The minimum requirement for recruiting product managers is 211 bachelor degree. 985 bachelor degree or 211 master degree is recommended.

The truth is very simple, the development of the words have entry threshold, basic only computer students; But the product although the computer major is still priority, but the professional relaxation of a lot of a lot, which also led to the degree this together appeared fairy fight situation. For example, when I was an intern in a hello product which is not a big factory (although it is really not small now), although the interns in the group also had a general degree like me, most of them were such as Jiao Tong University, Tongji University, Pennsylvania University, and so on. And heard that the same professional masters in Tencent internship, product group internship monks are the stream of North China Ivy School.

For example, I finally signed huawei, the product manager is different from the Internet. Under the condition that I missed the autumn recruitment perfectly and the communication and computer major was given priority, the degree was relaxed to 211. Finally, I could enter the company with a bunch of 985 masters

In addition, the product direction of the resume, super resume that kind of white paper template to write one page is the basic requirements, the specific content will be expanded in the next section.

Fish skin: I know the classmate of product post of job of a few undergraduate course, reflect according to them, school recruit product post is immortal fight really, the word of academic record is lower really need careful! Of course, it’s also possible to start working on a few internships early.

2. Early ability accumulation

Unlike the development of strong test interviews, product interviews require not only specific test preparation, but also long-term accumulation of skills, much like spoken English — no surprise. Because the product interview, especially the campus recruitment interview, does not have the historical output like the work club recruitment, and the campus recruitment itself pays more attention to the comprehensive quality of the individual, the potential for future development and so on, so the N product interviews I participated in were mainly chat style, not involving professional technical details. This type of interview makes it both easy — less of a no-know situation like a development interview — and difficult — where there is a real gap between the performance of different people. And the interviewer itself is a veteran, there are a variety of “colorful” forms to chat with you, such as soul questions, personality discussion, pressure injection, and so on, in short, the purpose is only one, by playing tricks on you, to break your false surprise preparation, so as to uncover your true colors.

Therefore, early and persistent ability accumulation is necessary. I recommend several ways to improve myself:

  1. Practice: Do practice, practice early. Sophomore, junior, summer vacation and winter vacation, rather than idle, internship. Big factory is difficult to enter, go to small factory first, circuitous practice.

  2. Contests: There are a lot of contests that help your product, and this one is really important, but often overlooked. Challenge cup, three creative competition, and so on, for example, mathematical modeling, and so on, because it can in a specific thing, rather than the students of the most entertaining), exercise with your teammates in order to achieve a purpose, and organize the ability to communicate, this for the whole communication ability and the ability of the feasibility analysis help is huge.

  3. Business or elite camp: Especially for non-science and engineering majors, this aspect is very helpful, such as some business challenge competitions, PWC summer elite camp, etc.

  4. Student organization. In fact, whether to recommend this point, I personally or tangled, or even to remind you of lightning. Many people always habitually join a student organization when they first enter the university, but looking back, most of the experience of student organization does not have much effect on exercise (especially in college-level organizations), or the exercise effect is far from the aforementioned competition and internship. However, my personal words are really trained, because when I joined the school choir and served as the principal bass part, I independently took part in the voice line for about 100 times, and I went to Hungary and Russia with the group for competitions and won gold MEDALS. Therefore, student organizations are very different and random. It is important to measure whether the student organization activities you are doing are worth your time and energy, or whether you are really interested in them, and try to make some “achievements”.

Fishskin: I also worked in the student union for two years during the university. Hands-on testing can improve your organization, management and expression skills, but you must not control the time you put in.

3. Targeted raids

School recruitment products value daily accumulation, so short-term assault is useless? Of course it does!

The following tips may not lead to long-term improvement, but for a single interview, they may even be the deciding factor.

  1. Data collection. Learn to use the Internet to understand the company and the department you are going to work for. Baidu, Google, Niuke, Likou, Mai Mai, Zhihu, even Post Bar Weibo…

  2. Targeted attacks. Take my own example, it is very understandable: during my interview with Huawei, MWCS World Mobile Congress was being held, in which Huawei was one of the main parties. I watched huawei’s speech in the conference and made notes. In fact, it played a great role in my interview in the end. As I said, interviewers will try to break down any faux prep, but a little careful and targeted preparation will certainly show the interviewer that you’re serious.

  3. Attitude communication. I personally think this is a very important point in the interview, in the interview must show their strong desire to pass the interview, at least you have to pass to the opposite teacher, you are not indifferent, but want to pass the defense or interview attitude. After all, only a few minutes, the interviewer is also a person with feelings, which may directly affect the final result of the interview.

  4. Say more. As the saying goes, a word is worth a thousand dollars, but in fact, can say less, and can not say, there are two realms of level. In the short interview dozens of minutes, we still try to say more. But need to pay attention to the speed not too fast, do not rob others words.

  5. Resume/Self-introduction fine tuning. It is good to go all over the world, but it should be properly adjusted according to different units, different positions, different business lines, relevant fine-tuning, highlighting their own strengths and characteristics in different business scenarios. For example, if the company sells baked sweet potatoes, you should highlight your food industry expertise rather than your bicycle repair expertise.

Attached: Why say undergraduate course ACM is god pit not enter?

From the perspective of ordinary people, I think algorithm competition has two main features:

  1. The more time you throw, the stronger you will be, so the best way to prepare is to put in all the time.
  2. But no matter how much time you put in, you will always be crushed by the gods.

The core of algorithm competition itself is mathematics. Although it is code code as well as development, it is very different in nature. One is relatively hands-on and the other is relatively brain and the other is relatively thinking. There are always two kinds of people who learn early and learn much, or are really smart. Noi or national team players, who started to learn the algorithm competition from high school or middle school in 985 universities, often learn early and smart, and show their hair on the competition field. Because the essence is mathematics, different from application competition and entrepreneurship competition, weak schools are not likely to win the grand prize. Even if you really didn’t do well in the SATS and have a strong aptitude for math, don’t forget that you still have two teammates…

Of course, there are some big guys who can carry the team, such as Donghua, 30 out of 300 people can be selected into the training team, two or three out of 10 teams won the prize, one of the two or three awards or no silver award, as for the gold medal to date back to 2006… Therefore, it is best not to bet that you are the chosen one. Whether it is really difficult to say, if you have not learned, or to see the talent you do not know whether there is something.

Effort is necessary, but don’t forget that the choice before effort is more critical.

See here, I don’t know how you feel.

What impresses me the most is that after constant choices and attempts, the little transparent student finally knows what he wants, and dares to break the rules and find a new way to set foot on the road he firmly believes, and go on without hesitation.

You may be confused at the beginning, but can you make your future clear by participating in it in advance? If you are still in the process of programming, can you think about more possibilities?

Above is the share of this issue, and finally I will send you some learning materials to help me get the offer from the big factory:

Ran away, leaving behind 6T of resources!

Welcome to read my programming learning, job hunting, textual research and book writing experience that I entered Tencent by self-study from zero, no longer confused!

I study computer for four years, mutual encouragement!

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